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    Eph 2:2; 6:12


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    Eph 2:2; 6:12

    Post  cladius on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:34 am

    Dr Birks. Listening to your 3rd teaching on Adamic Fallen Nature, you said something on Eph 2:2 about the "prince of the air." you said it wasnt "air" but "aer." Can you please expound more on that? The prince of Eph 2:2 and list in Eph 6:12 are all of those spiritual entities or both spiritual and natural-physical rulers? It seems the list in Eph 6 are all spiritual, satans host? Who are in the lake of fire NOW. From a preterist view, christians do not battle against them any longer, correct? We only battle against the law of sin or the flesh in our members which we have the power to over because of our new nature and Christ in us?

    Another Question. So the un-regenerate (sinners, unbelievers) with the old nature are struggling with the law of sin also but the difference is they dont have the new nature to be able to over come it? They are not wrestling against the list in Eph 6:12 because those Satan and his angels are in the Lake of Fire?

    Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

    Thank You,
    Cladius T

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    Re: Eph 2:2; 6:12

    Post  birks10 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:59 pm

    In Eph. 2:2, the Geeek word is AER (pronounced like "ear"), it's primary meaning is "to respire." Metaphorically, it's used as that which is within (where one would breath in and out). Satan was the prince of the power of that which is within relative to the Fallen Nature. He had his "handle" on us from within ourselves. It is used 7 times in the Greek NT. - Acts 23:23, 1 cor 9:26, 14:9, Eph. 2:2, 1 Th. 4:17 (High symbolism in Rev. 9:2 and 16:17). It's the place where there is "air" so to speak. But "air" within our own sphere of existence and not out in outer space or way above the planet surface. Check the references.... Eph. 6-- Yes, spiritual rulers, powers/Satanic. Actually, no, I don't think they are all in the Lake of Fire. Angels that fell according to 2 Pt. 2:4 and Jd. 6, yes, they are in the Lake, but there are a myriad of the rest of them (the demons) that are not yet. When will they be judged? I don't know. But they will. Satan, yes, in the Lake. ...... Unregenerate humans do not struggle/wrestle with sin. It is natural still for them to live in it. It is what is natural for them. They have no reason to stop.....

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